Harry Paul, PH.D. is a licensed clinical psychologist. He is a co-founder, member of the Board of Directors, supervisor and faculty member of TRISP, The Training and Research Institute in Intersubjective Self Psychology in New York City. He co-authored with Richard Ulmann: The Self Psychology of Addiction and Its Treatment: Narcissus in Wonderland (Routledge, 2006) and written numerous other papers on Intersubjectivity and Self Psychology. He is a co-editor and author of “Intersubjective Self Psychology: A Primer” (Routledge, 2019). He practices in New York City and in Chappaqua, New York.  -------- George Hagman, LCSW is a clinical social worker and psychoanalyst in private practice in New York City and Stamford, Connecticut. He is a graduate of the National Psychoanalytic Association for Psychoanalysis and is currently on the faculty of the Training and Research Institute for Self Psychology, and the Westchester Center for the Study of Psychoanalysis and Psychotherapy. He is the author of numerous published papers and several books including "Aesthetic Experience: Beauty, Creativity and the Search for the Ideal" (Rodopi 2006), "The Artist's Mind: Psychoanalytic Perspectives on Art. Modern Artists and Modern Art" (Routledge 2010) and "Creative Analysis: Art, Creativity and Clinical Process" (Routledge 2015). His recent volumes include “New Models of Bereavement Theory and Treatment: New Mourning” (Routledge), and “Art, Creativity, and Psychoanalysis: Perspectives from Analyst-Artists" (Routledge). He is coeditor with Harry Paul and Peter Zimmermann of “Intersubjective Self Psychology: A Primer” (Routledge, 2019).